Instead of using tanks they just took all the children away
I’m having a bit of trouble with the Texas raid on the church FLDS that was carried out recently. It was initiated by a phone call to an child abuse hot line. The person who made the call and the claims of abuse has yet to be found. As a matter of fact it is believed to have been made by someone who does not live there nor attends this church. 416 children have been kidnapped by the state of Texas and removed from their parents. I am left with the feeling that there is an over zealous bureaucrat who either has some kind of grudge against this church or simply wishes to force her values on a group of people who don’t share it. Yes I said her because I believe this bureaucrat is Marleigh Meisner. She is referred to as a spokesman for the Texas Department of Children’s Protective Services but is nowhere identified as to what her position with CPS actually is.
I find it suspect that the Texas CPS Department seemed to be ready with their lawyers to bring charges against this church and its members. To me, this really reeks of we’re gonna’ get ‘cha despite what ever the facts may be.
In what appeared to me to be a show trial this past week the state argued that all the children under 18 years old should be kept by the state. They based their argument on the testimony of Bruce Perry. He is a psychologist who specializes in cults. The FLDS has been around for over a hundred years and now all of a sudden it’s a cult? I’m sorry but this just smells of an illegal witch hunt to me.
In going over this in my mind I keep going back the Branch Davidians in Waco back in the nineties. That church wasn’t ATF approved and they used the pretext of child abuse to attack them with tanks and eventually just executed them all. Now it seems that the FLDS isn’t approved by the state of Texas.
These people have been accused in the press of welfare fraud and if that is true then they should be investigated for that but they should not have their families torn apart for it.
This whole thing just smells of intolerance and a state government gone mad.
HERE is an blog that is reporting each and every update of this travesty.
A bit of trouble? See the thousand comments by outraged citizens who have signed petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/free-the-innocent-flds
The Texas Foster Care system is apparently a
drug-infested disaster. See:
http://dayofpraise.blogspot.com/
Hope the situation clears up soon…
Christian Prophet, I don’t normally allow comments with a bunch of links but for this topic your links are appreceated.
Sameera, you and me both, sister!!!
Brian I understand the Civil Rights thing but surely it’s better to ensure the protection of even 1 child than leave them in an atmosphere that abuses their innocence. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. As for the Davidians, they called their compound Ranch Apocalypse and David Kalesh was determined to die a martyr’s death and take his followers with him. It was a 50 day seige and the Davidians had an opportunity to parle but chose to fight. Adults made those decisions for the young . . and they were fateful. I wonder if they were a a fundamentalist muslim enclave would you be so outraged?
So Baino, A child is abused in Sydney then according to you all children in NSW should be removed from their parents by the state, just in case. Cut me a break!
Now to attempt to set you straight, David Koresh and the Branch Davidians lived at “MOUNT CARMEL’ not whatever you called it. They like the FLDS just wanted to be left alone to worship as they wished. The BATF (commonly referred to as the Bureau of Arsonists, Thugs and Felons) used the pretext of gun running and when that didn’t fly they came up with drugs and child abuse. All of which were disproven!!! When they were attacked by the ATF agents in body armor and tanks they defended themselves. There was a 51 day psycological operational siege that culminated with the entire ranch being burned to the ground with everyone in it. After not allowing any firefighters near the place for over 8 hours the ATF then pulled down the Branch Davidian flag and ran an BATF flag up on their flag pole. A clear sign of a military victory.
If any religon and I mean any religon wishes to shun modern society and live and worship away from the modern world they should be allowed to. We call it religous freedom maybe Oz doesn’t. There has been NO reasonable cause to believe there is child abuse going on there. Just today the rumors of the call to the abuse hotline were found to be true. The call was made from Colorado by someone who neither lives in nor attends the FLDS.
So what I get from you is that it’s all OK because there MIGHT be some abuse going on there.
We don’t need proof or reasonable cause, comrade, the state is always right!
Fair play Brian . . .I agreed on the civil rights violation and no, I don’t believe if one child is abused all should be removed although in Australia we have a policy of ‘intervention’ with the aboriginal population where abuse and alcoholism have run out of control – we send in social workers, passive military and teachers to ‘educate’ rather than repeat the mistake of the 30′s and remove children from their indigenous parents. in a tight knit community such as a sect or cult it may be warranted. No religious freedom should allow abuse, forced containment or the concentration of arms. The US probably used the wrong agency to get it’s point across. I repeat, would you be as outraged if this was a fundamentalist muslim, seik or communist group? I doubt it. I’ll watch proceedings with interest to see how it pans out. Isn’t ‘reasonable’ cause a plea for help from sexual abuse from someone inside the sect?
And if I’m a communist, you’ll have to come up with a new name for the Chinese and North Koreans.